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By Mona de Crinis
THE GIRL’S GOT MOXIE
COMEDIAN SHANN CARR COMESBACK TO EARTH WITH A NEW BOOK
“The Flamboyance of the Seas.”
If comedian Shann Carr were a ship, that’s what she’d be
named. She tells me this over the phone as she’s shuttling between
parties during Dinah Shore weekend festivities. “And I would be
christened with—I mean I just keep thinking of a big crystal boob
or something,” she says, crackling with static, the faint hint
of screaming women in the background. “Kind of a big crystal boob. ‘What
would you christen me with?’” she repeats the question. “Oh
my god, I suck. So, maybe not christened, but there would definitely
be a huge boob on the front of the ship.”
It’s an appropriate inquiry, given that Shann was, from 2000-2007,
pretty much the sole lesbian entertainer on more than 20 Atlantis cruises. “That’s
right, 2,000 gay men ... and me ... on a boat!” she’s been
known to coo. OK, maybe ‘coo’ isn’t the right word.
Shann Carr is an entertainer and producer who, by her own admission on
her website, offers “total disrespect to everyone ... there
is no sacred ground with Shann... .” But her heart is in the right
place. She just wants to make people laugh. And laugh they do.
Her latest venture in eliciting laughter comes in the form of a coffee
table book called, You’re Going to Be Gay: A Laughing Look at the
Childhood Photos of My Friends, which features then-and-now photos and
humorous childhood stories of more than 50 LGBTers.
“This book is basically my friends, people I know,” she says,
explaining the book’s genesis. “This lady came to a show ... and
she was gay, but she was too homophobic to admit it. So the first time she
was ever around gay people, she wound up at my show. She sees that everybody’s
laughing, having a really good time ... so anyway she goes home and came out
and all that. Fifteen years later I ran into her, she came to my show again,
and she brought a picture of herself from childhood. And she said, ‘Why
it took me YOUR show to decide to come out, I don’t know. Look at me
when I was five!’ And that’s the picture that inspired the book.
She’s on a field trip with a bunch of five-year-old girls, and they’re
all in crinoline and poofy skirts, bows in their hair, and all this shit. And
she’s wearing a white t-shirt and high-top tennis shoes.”
The book shines a light on the early queer lives of such desert locals
as Hostess with the Most-est Bella da Ball, PR magnate Tim O’Bayley,
Imagine It Media’s Jeff Shotwell, and community advocate Jim Quinlan,
who is Shann’s ‘cover boy.’
“There’s only one local woman, and that was Marnie [Hesson, publisher
of The L Spot website],” says Shann of the book. “And it’s
a picture of Marnie with a girl who’s two years older than she is, and
they’re making muscles at each other, to see whose muscles are bigger.
The girl’s two years older, and Marnie’s still kicking her ass.
So that was really sweet. I like that one. And then the cover is Jim Quinlan.
It’s a picture of him in a satin Flamenco outfit with maracas in his
hands at a dance recital. I mean, it looks like he’s wearing lipstick—it’s
black and white and you can still tell he has on lipstick!”
There’s only one centerfold in the book and that honor goes to
Bella da Ball. “We gave him a two-page spread, because there were
like six pictures of him, smiling while pulling something out of the
oven, wearing a dress and pulling his skirt up so you could see his knees
... there were so many of him,” she explains. “It really
speaks to, once a queen always a queen. And on some level, it speaks
to genetics. I mean, obviously we don’t have a definitive answer
on whether it’s genetic or not, but these pictures are UN-BE-LIEVABLE,
and this is not even a broad sample; these are people I know, and they’re
so gay!”
The response to the book so far has been very favorable, according to
Shann. While she’s only had her own mitts on it for a few weeks,
the people who have seen the book have already expressed an interest
in being in the sequel. “It’s almost a calling card to do
the next one, and the next one,” she says excitedly. “In
fact, if I could have my way, I’d like to use this book as a calling
card to talk to some famous celebs. And maybe give part of the proceeds
to, like, Gay Associated Youth on the next book and do famous gay people
in their youth.”
Shann herself, however, claims she doesn’t exactly fit the mold
her book celebrates. As a kid, she says she was bratty and fat and funny-looking. “I
was a total bore. I did like the Broadmoor Ice Follies, you know ...
there was nothing cool about me. And my parents were military, so we
moved a lot, and I had to make friends fast. And I figured out that a
laugh was kind of the way to do it. If you hit a punch line on the nail,
even with strangers, it’s really intimate, and you’re in—with
only one line. So humor saved me, for sure.”
Shann’s formula for making people laugh is simple, but not easy. “The
trick is the truth,” she says, then after a beat adds, “truth
plus pain divided by punch line equals good.” And good she is,
if the legacy she leaves on the high seas is any indication. After years
of being the Atlantis cruise line’s comedy pin-up girl, Shann is
concentrating on keeping her feet on solid ground for a while. She has
several projects in the works through her production company, Moxie Studios,
including producing TV shows and plans for a media-based gay resort entertainment
center, the delicious details to be revealed at a later date.
But she still plans on doing a cruise every now and again, just to keep
her feet wet. “It was a gift—a total gift—Atlantis was for
me,” she asserts fondly. One of her favorite Atlantis stories reads like
something fresh out of a joke book. “Without getting too much into the
whole story, it’s about another cruise ship coming next to us at six
o’clock in the morning—with all our lasers going—and they
were thinking we were going down, that it was an emergency. Calling the bridge
and saying to our captain, ‘There are thousands of people on the deck
screaming with their hands in the air. Are you going down?’ And the poor
captain was like, ‘Well, yes ... and no. I can’t quite explain
what’s going on on this boat.’ That’s Atlantis in a nutshell.
“I’ve really worked 90 percent in the men’s community. It
was hard when I first started,” Shann continues. “People were complaining,
a little bit, that ‘This is a men’s cruise, how come this woman
is here?’ And one by one, I won. It was the men who stuck up for me and
saved a place for me there, and loved me and raised my career. It was unbelievable!
And now I feel that I’m strong enough to re-enter the lesbian community,
she adds with a laugh.
Shann admits that she still has a harder time with girl audiences than
the guys. “I think gay men are harder on gay men, maybe on stage.
And lesbians are harder on—everybody,” she says, punctuated
with a laugh. “For whatever reason—and I can’t explain
it—but it’s undeniable, gay men just let themselves go more
easily. And laugh, and laugh at themselves, and let me poke fun at them.
And lesbians—once you have them in the palm of your hand it’s
the best ride you’ll ever have—but it’s hard to win
them over. I haven’t had many chances with the lesbian community.
I haven’t really had failure, but it’s funny how often I
think, for whatever reason, that they might not enjoy me. But then, I’m
a gay man! I was raised up and nurtured and created by gay men.”
Taking this analogy a little bit further, I ask Shann what her alter-ego
gay boy would be like.
“Oh god, he’d be a total slut ... a total slut,” she says,
pausing. “I’d be everything! I’d be a decorator, I’d
be … everything. I mean, I try to be as lesbionic as I can, too. But
every time I put on jeans and a t-shirt and high tops, people go, ‘You
look soooo cute!’
“OK, so I’m sluttier than your average lesbian,” she confesses. “I
think [it’s] because I was raised in the leather community, which was
where my career started—I was International Miss Leather in ’88,
that was a long time ago. Between being raised by the leather community and
the gay male community, I already am a gay man. I don’t think I’d
be all that different. I’d go to parties and cook and sleep with women
I don’t intend to marry, and all of that.”
Perhaps Shann’s ‘gay boy-ness’ is best exemplified
by the description of a recent pick-up line in action.
“There was someone I wanted to kiss a little while ago. I was sitting
in my car, and I was getting ready to pull out, and she was leaning up against
my car. I had the top down, and I said, ‘I’m gonna be here for
about one more minute, so you could either stare at me for that minute, or
you can make out with me for that minute. What are ya gonna do with your time?’ I
didn’t pick up the chick, but we made out for a minute. I think I bullied
her… .
“I usually don’t make out with local people—ever,” Shann
avows in conclusion. “A friend of mine who I have to credit, says the
three most romantic words are ‘I’m leaving tomorrow.’”
Just don’t you leave, Shann. The desert would be as dull as the
dirt it’s built on without you.
If You Go — Shann Carr book signings for You’re
Going to Be Gay: A Laughing Look at the Childhood Photos of My Friends,
Friday, April 11, from 6 - 8 pm. Mixie’s Boy Bar, 120 S. Palm Canyon
Drive, Palm Springs. On Sunday, April 13, from 3 - 5 pm, Wang’s
in the Desert, 424 S. Indian Canyon Drive, Palm Springs. Copies of the
book will be available for purchase. For more information, visit shanncarr.com or call 760.202.0404.
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